simple1
05-08 02:00 PM
CFR22 is not the law. INA is the law. I could not find it in INA, that is all we need.
Honestly, I dont care if they are eligible for FB2A.
All I care is eb-dependents are not eligible for EBquota.
why are you quoting and supporting the official mis interpretation above the actual law ?
Is it still not clear for you? eb-dependents are NOT eligible for F2A.
So we have to follow the regulation and the regulation (CFR22) mentioned specifically that eb-dependents are eligble for EB-category. Regulations and interpretations are there for a reason, and it has to be followed when law is not clear.
I agree that INA doesnt specifically says that, but at the same time INA specifically rules out eb-dependents from F2A also. To be eligible for F2A you should be dependent of a permanent resident "at the time of application".
You should probably stream line your effort to not count eb-dependents in any visa-numbers (since neither the regulation or law is clear on that part).
You are still under a mis-concept that every word and sentence has to be quoted in "INA", and can ignore all official regulations and interpretations.
Honestly, I dont care if they are eligible for FB2A.
All I care is eb-dependents are not eligible for EBquota.
why are you quoting and supporting the official mis interpretation above the actual law ?
Is it still not clear for you? eb-dependents are NOT eligible for F2A.
So we have to follow the regulation and the regulation (CFR22) mentioned specifically that eb-dependents are eligble for EB-category. Regulations and interpretations are there for a reason, and it has to be followed when law is not clear.
I agree that INA doesnt specifically says that, but at the same time INA specifically rules out eb-dependents from F2A also. To be eligible for F2A you should be dependent of a permanent resident "at the time of application".
You should probably stream line your effort to not count eb-dependents in any visa-numbers (since neither the regulation or law is clear on that part).
You are still under a mis-concept that every word and sentence has to be quoted in "INA", and can ignore all official regulations and interpretations.
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tikka
05-23 08:50 AM
I apologize if the post sounded discouraging / instigating to members. I do completely support IV team, particularly because it is a collective decision made by a dedicated group which certainly would be much more wise than what I think with my limited awareness on this whole issue. Yes indeed as somebody pointed out--if the backlog is removed completely there would not be a need for H1b 3 year renewal.
No worries. It's all good. Everyone is a little stressed.
Please do email the senators !
No worries. It's all good. Everyone is a little stressed.
Please do email the senators !
amitjoey
11-17 05:26 PM
Posted on the Northern California chapter.
Chapter leaders- Please post on your chapter groups.
Chapter leaders- Please post on your chapter groups.
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deepak
09-10 09:32 PM
Deepak,
You are very practical and have excellent points.
Sometimes, ppl do get carried away by their passion (height of desperation if one looks at it another angle). We have to accommodate folks that cannot have a nonchalant attitude towards Immigration. Just like health care, GC stirs up our deepest and strongest emotions. For many, GC is an all-or-nothing proposition (again let's not fret about why it might be so, because they might have their own good reasons). Regardless, i agree with you completely, civility should not be lost. We have a broken Immigration system - all i care is how to fix it.
I am becoming a donor for the following reasons -
1. It is better to be informed and be involved rather than be "out of the loop" or in the dark
2. It is not free to get anything done in the commercial capital of the planet
3. Selfish motivation - life is short. i would like to see the end of this struggle as soon as i can. personally, cannot be a mute spectator esp. when i see someone else fighting for MY cause and I being fortunate to lend a helping hand
4. Altruistic motivation - gives some meaning to life whether we get anything done or not at the end of the day. if successful, would have the satisfaction of being part of the solution - the intangible benefits of that feeling is unexplainable.
Wish us luck and my best to everyone in all their endeavors.
All the best to all of us. The only way we can make our way out of this mess is by sticking together and helping each other out. IV is doing a good job of rallying everyone around and I think all things considered we are doing a good job of doing the best we can.
You are very practical and have excellent points.
Sometimes, ppl do get carried away by their passion (height of desperation if one looks at it another angle). We have to accommodate folks that cannot have a nonchalant attitude towards Immigration. Just like health care, GC stirs up our deepest and strongest emotions. For many, GC is an all-or-nothing proposition (again let's not fret about why it might be so, because they might have their own good reasons). Regardless, i agree with you completely, civility should not be lost. We have a broken Immigration system - all i care is how to fix it.
I am becoming a donor for the following reasons -
1. It is better to be informed and be involved rather than be "out of the loop" or in the dark
2. It is not free to get anything done in the commercial capital of the planet
3. Selfish motivation - life is short. i would like to see the end of this struggle as soon as i can. personally, cannot be a mute spectator esp. when i see someone else fighting for MY cause and I being fortunate to lend a helping hand
4. Altruistic motivation - gives some meaning to life whether we get anything done or not at the end of the day. if successful, would have the satisfaction of being part of the solution - the intangible benefits of that feeling is unexplainable.
Wish us luck and my best to everyone in all their endeavors.
All the best to all of us. The only way we can make our way out of this mess is by sticking together and helping each other out. IV is doing a good job of rallying everyone around and I think all things considered we are doing a good job of doing the best we can.
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reddymjm
05-01 08:10 PM
EB2 went to U and then because of EB1 they are available. so it could be all EB3 numbers left. In that case we can see considerable movement in EB3. If EB3 ROW becomes current or close to current next visa bulliten there might be some movement for India and china in coming months or atleast IN FY 2009.
If you don't agree. Speak out
If you don't agree. Speak out
whyregisteration
12-13 02:54 PM
one can call if FP notice has not got yet. But nothing useful for me (July 3rd filler), recently I received one mail: '.. still within our processing time ...', still no FP:eek:
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yadav
08-28 11:34 AM
My application reached Texas August 10th.
Check cashed :NO
Receipts : NO
Check cashed :NO
Receipts : NO
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Green.Tech
09-09 07:08 PM
Will EB-3 ever get out of 2001? :rolleyes:
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siaa96
10-08 06:51 PM
Have you been hit on the head by a hammer? I see a future Ron Hira in you.
GC was, is and will be a game of Inky-Pinky-Ponky with or without retrogression. There's no way it can be made 100% FIFO without installing cameras to monitor every IO adjudicating the case.
You must be one of those who is retrogressed and is hoping that somehow the Government will remove retrogression and you will be one of the lucky few who will magically slime through while there are others who were way ahead of you in the queue still waiting. Therefore I understand your anger whenever someone talks about honouring queues. It is human psychology. When we are at the beginning of a queue, we prefer that queues are honored and we are at the end of the queue, we wish we could somehow get to the beginning. There is no rocket science involved here. You are human too.
GC was, is and will be a game of Inky-Pinky-Ponky with or without retrogression. There's no way it can be made 100% FIFO without installing cameras to monitor every IO adjudicating the case.
You must be one of those who is retrogressed and is hoping that somehow the Government will remove retrogression and you will be one of the lucky few who will magically slime through while there are others who were way ahead of you in the queue still waiting. Therefore I understand your anger whenever someone talks about honouring queues. It is human psychology. When we are at the beginning of a queue, we prefer that queues are honored and we are at the end of the queue, we wish we could somehow get to the beginning. There is no rocket science involved here. You are human too.
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xeixas
09-10 02:33 AM
It looks like prior to this visa bulletin, the DOS was just guessing the dates for the visa bulletins. Hopefully this behavior changes moving forward.
The best example to illustrate this is EB3-ROW:
1) Back in October 2006, this category was on 01MAY02. Very close to where it is right now.
2) DOS was not getting enough visas from USCIS, so they increased the date. By May of 2007 (Same Fiscal Year) the date was 01AUG03.
3) They still didn't get enough visas. So, by June of 2007 they moved it to 01JUN05.
4) The July 07 bulletin happened and after that everything became unavailable.
5) Then in October 2007, when the USCIS had not revised any of the July 07 applications, the DOS still didn't know what to expect, so they went back to 01AUG02.
6) Again, they didn't get enough applications, so they moved the date up. By January 08 they were in 15OCT02. And in Jun, they went all the way to 01JAN06. Then they became unavailable again.
7) In October of 2008 the date was in 01JAN05, which means that USCIS was not done with the July 07 cases and DOS didn't know what to expect. In April of this year they go back to 2003 (some I-485s that were received back in 2007 getting approved?) and then they became unavailable.
8) Now in October 2009 they are back in 2002.
With dates going from 2001 to 2005 then back to 2002 then up to 2006 then back again to 2002 (EB3-ROW in the last 3 years), it is easy to conclude that up until now, USCIS and DOS have been gambling with the dates. So the October bulletin could mean one of two things: 1) Either they have valid data now and the dates for this bulletin are realistic, which would be good because at least we would know now where we stand or 2) They are still gambling, which is neither good or bad, because with the previous history of movement in the dates, the dates could go back to 2006 again or even further...
The best example to illustrate this is EB3-ROW:
1) Back in October 2006, this category was on 01MAY02. Very close to where it is right now.
2) DOS was not getting enough visas from USCIS, so they increased the date. By May of 2007 (Same Fiscal Year) the date was 01AUG03.
3) They still didn't get enough visas. So, by June of 2007 they moved it to 01JUN05.
4) The July 07 bulletin happened and after that everything became unavailable.
5) Then in October 2007, when the USCIS had not revised any of the July 07 applications, the DOS still didn't know what to expect, so they went back to 01AUG02.
6) Again, they didn't get enough applications, so they moved the date up. By January 08 they were in 15OCT02. And in Jun, they went all the way to 01JAN06. Then they became unavailable again.
7) In October of 2008 the date was in 01JAN05, which means that USCIS was not done with the July 07 cases and DOS didn't know what to expect. In April of this year they go back to 2003 (some I-485s that were received back in 2007 getting approved?) and then they became unavailable.
8) Now in October 2009 they are back in 2002.
With dates going from 2001 to 2005 then back to 2002 then up to 2006 then back again to 2002 (EB3-ROW in the last 3 years), it is easy to conclude that up until now, USCIS and DOS have been gambling with the dates. So the October bulletin could mean one of two things: 1) Either they have valid data now and the dates for this bulletin are realistic, which would be good because at least we would know now where we stand or 2) They are still gambling, which is neither good or bad, because with the previous history of movement in the dates, the dates could go back to 2006 again or even further...
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solaris27
08-13 07:49 AM
EB3_SEP04
no for my I-485
no for my I-485
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sareesh
11-18 02:48 PM
Done and also received "thank you for contacting email" from our Senator.
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rs_123
02-10 07:23 AM
I am sending a $50.00 check today.
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caydee
05-23 07:23 PM
Go ahead and send them as well, after you are done sending the first 2 (your state) and the 10 other priority senators.
I have sent to my state senators + 10 senators IV identified. I have also sent an email to the ND senator after he voiced his support for our cause on the senate floor today. I now plan to write to all 2008 presidential candidates. Most importantly I am going to write to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, as he has always been a champion of business and immigrant communities.
I have sent to my state senators + 10 senators IV identified. I have also sent an email to the ND senator after he voiced his support for our cause on the senate floor today. I now plan to write to all 2008 presidential candidates. Most importantly I am going to write to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, as he has always been a champion of business and immigrant communities.
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senthil1
12-12 08:24 PM
If we see the history H1B and GC numbers were never increased except 2004 20k inpast 15 years In 2000 it was increasd temporarlily for 4 years.Also EB numbers were never increased except temporary reliefs.If it is increased by Skill bill in current form that is really an acheivement. If there is a possiblity they may increase H1B because that is temorary visa(But in reallity not) and GC numbers may remain same. But if increased to 115k then also cap will be reached in another 1 month because there are more number of Desi companies than number of H1Bs. Thats why they are asking exemptions for MS people and 20% adjustment for every year. We have to wait and see whether congress fall on this trap to do this without analysing the impact.
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desi3933
03-10 02:56 PM
Any lobbying for immigration is tough at the time of recession. I think you are trying to do advocacy effort. Without getting approval from core IV group it will not be any use as advocacy effort only will not work. Senators will note your concerns and will act only if some bill is introduced. You need lobbying with advocacy effort for changing any law. Lobbyists will lobby only at right time as if they do in wrong time it will backfire.
I agree.
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US citizen of Indian origin
I agree.
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US citizen of Indian origin
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samrat_bhargava_vihari
06-08 03:16 PM
Hi
My 485 application received by NSC on May 24, 2007 but still no receipt and even did not cashed the check.
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shailesh,
Please let us know once you receive your receipt. We ( June 1st filers) can count from there.
My 485 application received by NSC on May 24, 2007 but still no receipt and even did not cashed the check.
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shailesh,
Please let us know once you receive your receipt. We ( June 1st filers) can count from there.
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felix31
09-09 07:39 PM
LOL
EB3 ROW went to June 2002
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Since I will never get GC, this may be a good time to plan the big change for my life. :D:D
Good luck, everyone!
:D
EB3 ROW went to June 2002
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Since I will never get GC, this may be a good time to plan the big change for my life. :D:D
Good luck, everyone!
:D
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ski_dude12
08-20 12:40 PM
My words exactly...
He should be happy that his case is atleast being looked at unlike others who really have no clue when it will be picked up.
Dude, what makes you feel better? let me try, my case pd is Mar 18th 2005, RD july 2nd 2007 and ND July 28th 2007.
It is assigned to officer on 28th June, no issues with case, all are in place like name check, background check, finger prints valid till next year, officer touched my case on july 12th and 28th, no RFE sent so far as per IO and don't know why it is still sitting on officers desk. I did everything SR, 2 infopass, senators, congresswomen, Ombudsman, NSC follow up emails, SCOPSSCATTA email, nothing worked so far.
I think you will leave the boat before me, good luck.
He should be happy that his case is atleast being looked at unlike others who really have no clue when it will be picked up.
Dude, what makes you feel better? let me try, my case pd is Mar 18th 2005, RD july 2nd 2007 and ND July 28th 2007.
It is assigned to officer on 28th June, no issues with case, all are in place like name check, background check, finger prints valid till next year, officer touched my case on july 12th and 28th, no RFE sent so far as per IO and don't know why it is still sitting on officers desk. I did everything SR, 2 infopass, senators, congresswomen, Ombudsman, NSC follow up emails, SCOPSSCATTA email, nothing worked so far.
I think you will leave the boat before me, good luck.
camarasa
07-09 06:06 PM
Guys and gals when you email people and talk to people of the media etc please stress "LEGAL IMMIGRATION". I've been reading a few messages of late that open with "immigration" but only start talking about legal immigration a few paragraphs later. Please stress "LEGAL" everytime you mention the word "immigration". Thanks.
bslraju
05-23 11:48 AM
thanks
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