delax
07-27 01:48 PM
Under the latest interpretation, EB3-I India will not get benefit until EB3-ROW gets benefit. So EB3-ROW benefiting will eventually benefit Eb3-I. That is the logical background.
The other two issues , which provided temporary relief, would have been redundant If we had recaptured the visas. Most of us, across the EB category/Country, would have been current or near current , rendering these issues redundant.
IV still went ahead with it (I am glad) knowing fully well recapture is difficult issue.
So no harm in EB3-I seeking temporary relief while still joining forces on the recapture issue.
Now you need to explain How EB3-I seeking favorable interpretation of spill over distribution undermines "Recapture effort". How are these related??
Chmur; I appreciate your post. For the sake of a discussion could you share what is the temporary relief that you are seeking. I am curious to know the details. Is it
1. Revert back to the vertical spillover rule. OR
2. Revert back to vertical spillover rule and after EB3-ROW becomes current split the visas equally between EB2-I and EB3-I OR
3. Keep the horizontal spill over in place but any spill over from EB2 ROW should go equally to EB2-Retro and EB3 (ROW and Retro) category.
Let me offer my answers to the questions above:
1. In this case EB3-I is no better off as EB3ROW and EB2-I has to become current before any excess visas can go to EB3-I.
2. Completely negates the categorization as laid out by law after the initial handout is done equally. Is a hybrid approach where the vertical rule would be enforced so long as EB2 and EB3 (both ROW) are current. But after that a selective interpretation of the vertical rule is sought where EB2-I and EB3-I share it equally. The basis of this selective interpretation appears to be length of wait - nowhere does the INA state that length of wait can be used as a basis for negating categorization of EB category.
3. Is against the law - read my earlier post. Again selectively uses horizontal spill over till EB2 ROW demand is satisfied and then use vertical spill over to share visas between EB2-Retro and EB3 category.
I completely respect your right to lobby for change. However I am a little baffled as to how this change can be sought without changing law. Even if the change is approved, I see a strong possibility of a counter EB2 movement to nullify this change. I would appreciate any details from you anybody else on this. Cheers
The other two issues , which provided temporary relief, would have been redundant If we had recaptured the visas. Most of us, across the EB category/Country, would have been current or near current , rendering these issues redundant.
IV still went ahead with it (I am glad) knowing fully well recapture is difficult issue.
So no harm in EB3-I seeking temporary relief while still joining forces on the recapture issue.
Now you need to explain How EB3-I seeking favorable interpretation of spill over distribution undermines "Recapture effort". How are these related??
Chmur; I appreciate your post. For the sake of a discussion could you share what is the temporary relief that you are seeking. I am curious to know the details. Is it
1. Revert back to the vertical spillover rule. OR
2. Revert back to vertical spillover rule and after EB3-ROW becomes current split the visas equally between EB2-I and EB3-I OR
3. Keep the horizontal spill over in place but any spill over from EB2 ROW should go equally to EB2-Retro and EB3 (ROW and Retro) category.
Let me offer my answers to the questions above:
1. In this case EB3-I is no better off as EB3ROW and EB2-I has to become current before any excess visas can go to EB3-I.
2. Completely negates the categorization as laid out by law after the initial handout is done equally. Is a hybrid approach where the vertical rule would be enforced so long as EB2 and EB3 (both ROW) are current. But after that a selective interpretation of the vertical rule is sought where EB2-I and EB3-I share it equally. The basis of this selective interpretation appears to be length of wait - nowhere does the INA state that length of wait can be used as a basis for negating categorization of EB category.
3. Is against the law - read my earlier post. Again selectively uses horizontal spill over till EB2 ROW demand is satisfied and then use vertical spill over to share visas between EB2-Retro and EB3 category.
I completely respect your right to lobby for change. However I am a little baffled as to how this change can be sought without changing law. Even if the change is approved, I see a strong possibility of a counter EB2 movement to nullify this change. I would appreciate any details from you anybody else on this. Cheers
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jobforme
07-10 12:33 PM
How about we come up with a skit where we can reenact the drama about the whole episode in a funny way. Where we can have people portraying roles of USCIS Director, Secrtary of State, Immigrants calling franctically to India to get their documents, parents running around to get doucments, the start of rumor, the employees of uscis working on sunday to adjudicate the cases, then the flip flop of DOS. etc. Then we can put this on youtube and will attract publicity.
Karthik Thambidurai
07-13 07:57 AM
NPR news coverage on July 2007 visa bulletin
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11945381
:)
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11945381
:)
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h1techSlave
07-21 08:14 AM
I am quoting the below lines from another post..
"With 11.25 K EB3 members we would have still collected quarter million bucks."
I think the above statement is correct. There are 1000s of EB3 I folks in IV and they could have very well contributed a quarter or even a million bucks. My question is, what will happen after that?
"With 11.25 K EB3 members we would have still collected quarter million bucks."
I think the above statement is correct. There are 1000s of EB3 I folks in IV and they could have very well contributed a quarter or even a million bucks. My question is, what will happen after that?
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chanduv23
02-17 05:26 PM
@12%, thanks iak1973, reddymjm, mhkumar, Pagal, Hopeful1, dudes2006
Total Contributions..........$6,225.00
Amount to be raised.......$43,775.00
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Great, lets keep this going.
Come on folks - we can do this for ourselves, for our future, for our children, for the good.
Total Contributions..........$6,225.00
Amount to be raised.......$43,775.00
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Great, lets keep this going.
Come on folks - we can do this for ourselves, for our future, for our children, for the good.
starving_dog
06-27 07:03 AM
Another reason for optimism, read his last three entries...
http://www.visalaw.com/blog.html
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sri1309
03-16 10:56 AM
There is very simple reason for this, during 1999-2002 H1B cap was raised to 190,000 even if you make a guess on the lower side more than 50% of these H1Bs went to Indians, so atleast 200,000 Indians entered US between 1999 when these people filed their Green Cards most of them filed under EB-3, b'cause retrogression wasn't there and everthing was current, lot of people, who were in the states where labor took less time, kept getting their green cards, in the meantime a huge chunk of people from states like NJ, NY, TX, CA got stuck at the labor stage with PD in 2000 and up. So basically lot of 2002 & above got cleared but these people with older PDs were stuck. Now when these Labors are cleared, with just 3300 Green Card numbers every year, it'll take 20 years or more for EB-3 cut-off dates to move to 2009.
Good discussion.
But even if it was 65000, from India, I'm sure most of them took a big slice, lets say 30%= 20,000 H1 visas. And did the 7% quota formula might have existed at that time too. If so, even then there must be quite a big line. Why were things current at any point. Were they just processing very fast without any attention to quota formula and then they woke up?
Good discussion.
But even if it was 65000, from India, I'm sure most of them took a big slice, lets say 30%= 20,000 H1 visas. And did the 7% quota formula might have existed at that time too. If so, even then there must be quite a big line. Why were things current at any point. Were they just processing very fast without any attention to quota formula and then they woke up?
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sam2006
08-23 01:44 PM
Congratulations..my application was received by NSC on July 2nd too, and I haven't received anything yet..hope i will get it sometime soon...so are all the applications that went to NSC on July2nd are getting transfered to TSC ??
I guess only for 140 approved in TSC are getting transfered to TSC
I guess only for 140 approved in TSC are getting transfered to TSC
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krishnam70
07-05 01:49 PM
brickbats and concerns apart few people believe in the concept and are ready to put the money where their belief lies. So if you can do something about it do it. Other suggestions are ok may be they can be made in the other thread where there is a discussion about media attention.
Gandhi - giri works everywhere and it has worked in this country too, have you heard about civil disobedience in this country too.. if you did not then you might want to use our fav : google and look it up. - Rosa parks , does that ring a bell? sometimes simple things take you farther than highly publicized event.
may be just look at this link if you are too lazy
http://www.americaslibrary.gov/cgi-bin/jb_date.cgi?day=01&month=12
Gandhi - giri works everywhere and it has worked in this country too, have you heard about civil disobedience in this country too.. if you did not then you might want to use our fav : google and look it up. - Rosa parks , does that ring a bell? sometimes simple things take you farther than highly publicized event.
may be just look at this link if you are too lazy
http://www.americaslibrary.gov/cgi-bin/jb_date.cgi?day=01&month=12
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anurakt
10-25 12:49 PM
Guys,
I never beleive in polls. The questions are always framed in such a way so that max people go and answer the way the poll wants....example below
Q1 ... Do you as an American support CIR for resolving immigration issues this country faces ?
Q2 ... Do you as an American support CIR so that illegal immigrants be a Citizen of this country ?
Looks at the above two questions, I think for Q1 lot of people would say "Yes" and "No" for the Q2, so I never beleive on the polls , the questions are always framed to get the answer the poll wants.
I never beleive in polls. The questions are always framed in such a way so that max people go and answer the way the poll wants....example below
Q1 ... Do you as an American support CIR for resolving immigration issues this country faces ?
Q2 ... Do you as an American support CIR so that illegal immigrants be a Citizen of this country ?
Looks at the above two questions, I think for Q1 lot of people would say "Yes" and "No" for the Q2, so I never beleive on the polls , the questions are always framed to get the answer the poll wants.
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NKR
04-25 01:08 PM
hey till now i haven't noticed about this reddot until u said. who gives it and how???? i dont have any idea as i am new to this foum.. and how can anyone give points for reputation.
I do not know how to give red dots since I do not give any. To give green you have to click on the icon above the post for which you are giving a green dot. I just gave you one.
I do not know how to give red dots since I do not give any. To give green you have to click on the icon above the post for which you are giving a green dot. I just gave you one.
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nepaliboy
05-19 05:03 PM
i had call several times open service request 3times but no help finelly i took infopass and went to atlanta to see io he fineally shedule me for 28th may but i have not receive appointment letter yet .
do you think i will receive letter ?
after fingerprint i will see lud or not?
i am july 2nd 2007 filler and my pd is november 2005 row , my visa is current now so what will happen after my fingerprint to my file?
will they put back again somewhere storage place or they will finished my fille work?
do you think i will receive letter ?
after fingerprint i will see lud or not?
i am july 2nd 2007 filler and my pd is november 2005 row , my visa is current now so what will happen after my fingerprint to my file?
will they put back again somewhere storage place or they will finished my fille work?
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rtarar
05-20 08:22 AM
I am a July 2nd Filer, and have not gone through FP till now.
I e filed on 11th May for EAD /AP renewal for myself and spouse.
LUD on 14 th May. Receipt notices received 16 th may.
Got FP notice only for myself on 19 th May.
(Still waiting for spouse's FP notice)
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I e filed on 11th May for EAD /AP renewal for myself and spouse.
LUD on 14 th May. Receipt notices received 16 th may.
Got FP notice only for myself on 19 th May.
(Still waiting for spouse's FP notice)
-R
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willigetagc
11-21 01:49 PM
Mehul,
I am sitting here wondering what to say...My gut feeling says that you will make it through and you still have 6 months to turn the whole situation around.
But, first get your hands on this movie and watch it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1GKGWJbE8
It is on a book called "The Secret" by Rhonda Byrne. Watch the movie and start believing in yourself and go for whatever treatment is available.
You will make it bro..
I am sitting here wondering what to say...My gut feeling says that you will make it through and you still have 6 months to turn the whole situation around.
But, first get your hands on this movie and watch it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1GKGWJbE8
It is on a book called "The Secret" by Rhonda Byrne. Watch the movie and start believing in yourself and go for whatever treatment is available.
You will make it bro..
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conundrum
02-02 02:01 PM
While I was in school I did hear about desi body shoppers, but never thought of using one. But it so happened, that I was offered a job with a company that makes defense stuff and they wanted to use my service since I had a specific set of skills. They couldn’t have anyone, other than a US citizen or PR, working on other premises as it was considered to be a secure zone. So these guys hired an office for me in the building next door to theirs and even lined up a desi consultant that the HR guys knew so that I could work for them as a consultant. I was working on my OPT initially and then got my H1 through the desi body shopper. As most desi body shoppers go, he started eating into what was paid for the hr that I put in. The company that wanted to hire me was even paying this desi guy to get my GC, but he made sure that he was doing it as slow as possible. Finally both the company and I got sick of the whole thing and I finally found a job where they were more than happy to sponsor my H1 and GC. The defense company that I worked for before at least until a couple of months back was checking up with me to find out if I had got the GC, I am sure now the situation would be different.
The point I was trying to make was, no one wants to use a body shopper if possible, but at times you are forced into a situation where that is the only option available. I am not asking anyone to empathize with people who are working for a body shopper who is fleecing them, but at the very least don’t condemn them.
You're kidding right? No one I know has ever used a body shopper. It is only on forums like these that I hear about people who got H1Bs through a body shopper and are now complaining they don't get paid and wondering if they are in status.
The point I was trying to make was, no one wants to use a body shopper if possible, but at times you are forced into a situation where that is the only option available. I am not asking anyone to empathize with people who are working for a body shopper who is fleecing them, but at the very least don’t condemn them.
You're kidding right? No one I know has ever used a body shopper. It is only on forums like these that I hear about people who got H1Bs through a body shopper and are now complaining they don't get paid and wondering if they are in status.
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ThinkTwice
07-19 06:59 PM
Good job Think Twice.. you are putting your money where your mouth is. :D :D :o
I pledge $200 towards this fund.
I pledge $200 towards this fund.
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sanjay
02-10 02:42 PM
As promised, I am contributing another $25.00 as $1000.00 has crossed. (Cheque has been posted)
I will again donate another $25 when we cross $2000.00
Comeon folks, we can do it.
So far...29 contributions only.....
GCCovet
Hi GCCovet,
As promised, I am contributing another $25.00 as $1000.00 has crossed.
I will again donate another $25 when we cross $2000.00
Details:
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Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #3LK7417540480844L)
Total:$25.00 USD
Date:Feb. 10, 2009
Time:11:23:38 PST
Status:Completed
Subject:Immigration Voice
Method: PayPal
I will again donate another $25 when we cross $2000.00
Comeon folks, we can do it.
So far...29 contributions only.....
GCCovet
Hi GCCovet,
As promised, I am contributing another $25.00 as $1000.00 has crossed.
I will again donate another $25 when we cross $2000.00
Details:
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Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #3LK7417540480844L)
Total:$25.00 USD
Date:Feb. 10, 2009
Time:11:23:38 PST
Status:Completed
Subject:Immigration Voice
Method: PayPal
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GC1027
11-21 11:18 AM
Gurus,
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
Hi Mehul,
I cannot tell you how sorry I am for your current situation. Please don't give up and consult other physicians. I personally know couple of people who were scared by the doctors about having a serious health condition but they totally recovered and are fine now. The doctors here just alert you about the worst that could happen to save themselves from being sued. So please don't lose hope and try other methods.
I am sure USCIS will consider your situation and your wife will get her GC without any problems. You just have to go in the right route. Contacting an attorney would be the way to go.
Our best wishes are with you!
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
Hi Mehul,
I cannot tell you how sorry I am for your current situation. Please don't give up and consult other physicians. I personally know couple of people who were scared by the doctors about having a serious health condition but they totally recovered and are fine now. The doctors here just alert you about the worst that could happen to save themselves from being sued. So please don't lose hope and try other methods.
I am sure USCIS will consider your situation and your wife will get her GC without any problems. You just have to go in the right route. Contacting an attorney would be the way to go.
Our best wishes are with you!
isantem
11-17 03:49 PM
Done! VA
Thanks IV
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amitjoey
07-11 07:08 PM
I agree absolutely. Living right here near DC and being a victim of the present USCIS mess, I still did not know about this campaign until a family member from India mentioned about it after reading it in the local newspaper.
I quickly signed up on this site and sent the flowers to be delivered yesterday.
Welcome to IV, what a way to know about the flower-campaign.
I quickly signed up on this site and sent the flowers to be delivered yesterday.
Welcome to IV, what a way to know about the flower-campaign.
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