amsgc
12-11 12:50 AM
In a testimony to the House Judiciary Committee back in Apr/May 08, the USCIS clearly stated that it had changed its policy regarding which applications would be adjudicated first.
As I remember, USCIS stated that it was now following a policy where cases that had a possibility of getting a visa number in the near future were adjudicated first. It said that this change in policy was made in order to reduce waste of immigrant visas.
The problem with this approach is that:
- It is not FIFO
- EB2-I/C and EB3 not only continue to remain retrogressed, but retrogression worsens.
Here is how:
Since EB2-I/EB3-I categories are already retrogressed, the I-485 applications in this category will be shelved until it appears that a visa number may become available in the foreseeable future.
So, USCIS puts most of these cases in cold storage while it adjudicates and approves the EB2ROW applications as it receives them on a continuous basis.
When time comes to roll over excess EB2 ROW numbers, two things happen:
- Already substantial use of EB2ROW numbers make few numbers available for roll over
- Limited adjudication of Eb2-I/C and EB3 cases make a very small pool of pre-adjudicated applications. USCIS requests DOS to move dates so that it has access to a larger pool for cherry picking.
The result is that VB dates move forward by leaps and bounds and cases are approved haphazardly with PDs all over the map. When the excess numbers are used up, the dates for EB2-I/C and EB3 retrogress back to previous cutoff dates because there are still a lot of old cases that have not even been brought out of cold storage. The EB2ROW dates are again current because USCIS has adjudicated and approved EB2ROW cases throughout the year- so no backlog there.
If USCIS followed FIFO, then the following would happen:
- USCIS would be adjudicating old EB2I/C and EB3 cases right now, and not the recently received EB2ROW cases.
- This would reduce the number of pre-adjudicated EB2ROW cases and hence lower the demand in the EB2ROW category.
- When time would come to roll over numbers not used by EB2ROW:
- A large pool number of excess visas would be available
- A large pool of pre-adjudicated EB2-I/C and EB3 cases with old PDs would be available that could be readily assigned visa numbers.
As a result, old cases would be assigned visa numbers and backlog would be reduced.
Unfortunately, USCIS has confused its process of adjudicating cases (which is FIFO) with its effort to enforce the country quota. The country limits come into picture only when cases ready for adjudication are to be assigned visa numbers. The process of adjudication should still be FIFO, and not determined by the country quota.
I wonder how it is they justify over 70K visas to EB2ROW, keeping it current all year, when EB2 I was so retrogressed and got only 15K. FIFO my foot. This is the most mismanaged, subjective thing I have ever seen. Translated for us, luck of the draw.
As I remember, USCIS stated that it was now following a policy where cases that had a possibility of getting a visa number in the near future were adjudicated first. It said that this change in policy was made in order to reduce waste of immigrant visas.
The problem with this approach is that:
- It is not FIFO
- EB2-I/C and EB3 not only continue to remain retrogressed, but retrogression worsens.
Here is how:
Since EB2-I/EB3-I categories are already retrogressed, the I-485 applications in this category will be shelved until it appears that a visa number may become available in the foreseeable future.
So, USCIS puts most of these cases in cold storage while it adjudicates and approves the EB2ROW applications as it receives them on a continuous basis.
When time comes to roll over excess EB2 ROW numbers, two things happen:
- Already substantial use of EB2ROW numbers make few numbers available for roll over
- Limited adjudication of Eb2-I/C and EB3 cases make a very small pool of pre-adjudicated applications. USCIS requests DOS to move dates so that it has access to a larger pool for cherry picking.
The result is that VB dates move forward by leaps and bounds and cases are approved haphazardly with PDs all over the map. When the excess numbers are used up, the dates for EB2-I/C and EB3 retrogress back to previous cutoff dates because there are still a lot of old cases that have not even been brought out of cold storage. The EB2ROW dates are again current because USCIS has adjudicated and approved EB2ROW cases throughout the year- so no backlog there.
If USCIS followed FIFO, then the following would happen:
- USCIS would be adjudicating old EB2I/C and EB3 cases right now, and not the recently received EB2ROW cases.
- This would reduce the number of pre-adjudicated EB2ROW cases and hence lower the demand in the EB2ROW category.
- When time would come to roll over numbers not used by EB2ROW:
- A large pool number of excess visas would be available
- A large pool of pre-adjudicated EB2-I/C and EB3 cases with old PDs would be available that could be readily assigned visa numbers.
As a result, old cases would be assigned visa numbers and backlog would be reduced.
Unfortunately, USCIS has confused its process of adjudicating cases (which is FIFO) with its effort to enforce the country quota. The country limits come into picture only when cases ready for adjudication are to be assigned visa numbers. The process of adjudication should still be FIFO, and not determined by the country quota.
I wonder how it is they justify over 70K visas to EB2ROW, keeping it current all year, when EB2 I was so retrogressed and got only 15K. FIFO my foot. This is the most mismanaged, subjective thing I have ever seen. Translated for us, luck of the draw.
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adiboss007
04-10 04:42 PM
its funny. everyone is talking about recession, weak dollar, foreclosures, job cuts , etc etc. but the number of h-1b applications continues to rise each year (last year it was 123k, this year it is 163k).
isn't this a funny and/or strange statistic ? :confused:
anyway, i wish all applicants the best. i was in the same position last year and i know how it feels. hopefully, uscis is better prepared to handle this volume, after last years experience.
-a
isn't this a funny and/or strange statistic ? :confused:
anyway, i wish all applicants the best. i was in the same position last year and i know how it feels. hopefully, uscis is better prepared to handle this volume, after last years experience.
-a
vparam
05-23 01:49 AM
Mchundi,
I understand your anxiety. To answer your questions:
There is no chance of having any single set of provisions "become law immediately."
Unfortunately, we have to let this current round of discussions on CIR play out. What should we root for? That amendments to the current CIR that basically gut the bill fail. If the bill survives these amendments then we stand a good chance of succeeding in our efforts.
For strategic reasons, we cannot disclose everything we know about behind the scenes agreements.
Hang in there!
best,
Berkeleybee
- Why is it not possible for IV to convince brownback or cronyn to support in a amedment that backlog reduction section for legal immigrants could take effect immdiately. it looks like for legal immigrants except for sen.session no one opposes any provision.
Thanks
vikram
I understand your anxiety. To answer your questions:
There is no chance of having any single set of provisions "become law immediately."
Unfortunately, we have to let this current round of discussions on CIR play out. What should we root for? That amendments to the current CIR that basically gut the bill fail. If the bill survives these amendments then we stand a good chance of succeeding in our efforts.
For strategic reasons, we cannot disclose everything we know about behind the scenes agreements.
Hang in there!
best,
Berkeleybee
- Why is it not possible for IV to convince brownback or cronyn to support in a amedment that backlog reduction section for legal immigrants could take effect immdiately. it looks like for legal immigrants except for sen.session no one opposes any provision.
Thanks
vikram
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keerthi
04-04 04:28 AM
So should we withdraw the appeal and re-file? Would that make sense at all?
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bigboy007
06-08 02:14 AM
true , but not sure how much hez gonna bend , he stillseems upbeat ?
lostinbeta
05-27 05:04 PM
Soul gets my vote, that site could cause epileptic seizures.
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DallasBlue
07-17 12:15 AM
Depending upon the uscis announcement in a day or two (i.e,7/17 or 7/18)things may change for the short term so we will plan any specific action item after that.
But for now lets continue to urge everyone we know in Texas to join IV to continue pursuing our efforts as much intelligent, elite and vivid group for acheiving our goals and objectives.
Guys,
Just recently moved from Milwaukee, WI to Plano, TX (DFW) area. Just let me know what need to be done from my side. Awaiting eagerly.
- BharatPremi
But for now lets continue to urge everyone we know in Texas to join IV to continue pursuing our efforts as much intelligent, elite and vivid group for acheiving our goals and objectives.
Guys,
Just recently moved from Milwaukee, WI to Plano, TX (DFW) area. Just let me know what need to be done from my side. Awaiting eagerly.
- BharatPremi
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FKFish
01-31 11:44 AM
What if my 485 gets approved as soon as my PD becomes current, and before my wife's 485 filed? Will it be fine as along as our married date is before the approval date?
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gdr_09
04-19 10:54 PM
How did it get approved? Did u transfer u'r H1B to another company, after it gets denied?
Please share u'r experience.
Please share u'r experience.
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anilsal
08-06 12:38 AM
for the lucid description. Having local interviews can be stressful on people (and the sheer anticipation of it). I do hope your list of things can be posted on some blog or a place that is easily accessible later.
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paskal
12-27 12:08 AM
Thank you all for participating in the call
the attendance was around 20 members
Thanks to our friends from MA/GA for joining the midwesterners
and thanks much to Ashish from the core group for his assistance and for briefing us.
We are set for a follow up call at 10pm CST tomorrow 12/27, call details are the same, those who could not make it today are welcome to join in as well.
Reminder:
Please send your contact details to me so we can create an effective group communication method.
the attendance was around 20 members
Thanks to our friends from MA/GA for joining the midwesterners
and thanks much to Ashish from the core group for his assistance and for briefing us.
We are set for a follow up call at 10pm CST tomorrow 12/27, call details are the same, those who could not make it today are welcome to join in as well.
Reminder:
Please send your contact details to me so we can create an effective group communication method.
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immigrant2007
09-13 12:30 PM
EB2 and EB3 at one point were in the same boat. Now that EB2 is advancing and is way ahead of EB3, the EB3 applicants are upset and angry. Their anger is very much justified. However, their anger should not be directed towards EB2 applicants.
As I pointed out in another post, we are all players here and we are all playing by the rules. The system is not fair. Anger should be directed towards the system and not towards EB2s.
"hate the game, don't hate the playa....Chris Rock" is appropriate here.
Most of the EB2s, if not all, are supportive of reform and are supportive towards EB3 friends. The anger may lead to the disruption of this support.
We are all in this together. We all need to stay together.
I agree and plead to everyone (I really beg to everyone of you please do not fight) lets support each other. Someone is going to get GC earlier than others. Lets not feel bad about it. And I request everyone in EB2 and EB1 to support all backlogs victims.
As I pointed out in another post, we are all players here and we are all playing by the rules. The system is not fair. Anger should be directed towards the system and not towards EB2s.
"hate the game, don't hate the playa....Chris Rock" is appropriate here.
Most of the EB2s, if not all, are supportive of reform and are supportive towards EB3 friends. The anger may lead to the disruption of this support.
We are all in this together. We all need to stay together.
I agree and plead to everyone (I really beg to everyone of you please do not fight) lets support each other. Someone is going to get GC earlier than others. Lets not feel bad about it. And I request everyone in EB2 and EB1 to support all backlogs victims.
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senthil1
07-08 02:51 PM
It is not just IV. He does not give any other source where he is getting information. In IV some persons always try to find fault with others whether pro immigrants or Anti immigrants. IV is dealing with only very small part of immigration that is Green card for highly skilled persons. But other groups like AILA is trying to get benefit for all the section of immigration. Of course there is no surprise in seeing their welfare first before seeing others. Lawyers will give more importance to their profession than the common people
Given that (I believe) he regularly visits IV and gets information from here, but never wants to give IV the credit for it.
Given that (I believe) he regularly visits IV and gets information from here, but never wants to give IV the credit for it.
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desi3933
08-26 02:32 PM
She can work for any company she wants... her EAD is not limited to any job/profession... So she can work for Company B or C or D
PS - My wife works for company B using AP/EAD that came as a result of my I485 done by my employer. So she should enter on AP and use EAD to work. No issues. She can always have the H1 in her back pocket for back up... I would consult a lawyer if I were you before using the H1...
She can not get an H4 though... thats seen as abandoning your AOS status...
Hope this helps...
>> She can not get an H4 though... thats seen as abandoning your AOS status...
Totally Incorrect.
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PS - My wife works for company B using AP/EAD that came as a result of my I485 done by my employer. So she should enter on AP and use EAD to work. No issues. She can always have the H1 in her back pocket for back up... I would consult a lawyer if I were you before using the H1...
She can not get an H4 though... thats seen as abandoning your AOS status...
Hope this helps...
>> She can not get an H4 though... thats seen as abandoning your AOS status...
Totally Incorrect.
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kaisersose
07-27 07:47 PM
Is your question about Approved 140 or Pending 140.
I am also curious to know.
As far as I know, employer has to just send a letter to USCIS with the 140 receipt number which states that they want to revoke it and USCIS will locate the file with 485 and revoke it too.
Bad but what can we do ???????
Why would your employer do that unless you did something inappropriate?
As long as the employee does not not step out of line. He has nothing to worry. In this case, the only problem is layoffs for unavoidable reasons in which case it is not the employee's fault. In such situations, the employer will not revoke the 140.
I am also curious to know.
As far as I know, employer has to just send a letter to USCIS with the 140 receipt number which states that they want to revoke it and USCIS will locate the file with 485 and revoke it too.
Bad but what can we do ???????
Why would your employer do that unless you did something inappropriate?
As long as the employee does not not step out of line. He has nothing to worry. In this case, the only problem is layoffs for unavoidable reasons in which case it is not the employee's fault. In such situations, the employer will not revoke the 140.
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sapota
01-02 02:51 PM
One of my friends with a Phd in EE had to do something similar at Chennai consulate and had to wait for like a month. I guess Phd + research might trigger such paranoia among Visa officers.
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Jeff Wheeler
11-27 04:36 AM
Hmm... I didn't know about AIR issues you mentioned.. ;( On PC it works great, and people at Adobe (as I can see on videos) use Mac OS as their primary OS.
AIR on Linux is in beta, and it�s no question why. It�s a second-class citizen.
btw considering Mono... We had an ASP.NET app that had to be ported to Linux.. We did it with Mono, but... there were huge problems with memory leaks.. So colleague had to rewrite it completely in PHP.. So, my (bad) experience tells me not to use .NET on Linux... Perhaps they fixed it though? Ugh, somehow I don't believe that Microsoft cares for any other OS but its own.. ?
ASP.NET may be different from normal .NET apps, but there are many first-class C# apps that run in Mono�s runtime environment that can be ported from *nix to even OS X.
I can�t speak for your experiences, but if you rewrote it in PHP, it probably wasn�t intended to a normal GUI app in the first place. PHP is an odd replacement, if so.
AIR on Linux is in beta, and it�s no question why. It�s a second-class citizen.
btw considering Mono... We had an ASP.NET app that had to be ported to Linux.. We did it with Mono, but... there were huge problems with memory leaks.. So colleague had to rewrite it completely in PHP.. So, my (bad) experience tells me not to use .NET on Linux... Perhaps they fixed it though? Ugh, somehow I don't believe that Microsoft cares for any other OS but its own.. ?
ASP.NET may be different from normal .NET apps, but there are many first-class C# apps that run in Mono�s runtime environment that can be ported from *nix to even OS X.
I can�t speak for your experiences, but if you rewrote it in PHP, it probably wasn�t intended to a normal GUI app in the first place. PHP is an odd replacement, if so.
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rnvd
10-30 03:48 PM
Hi all,
Here is my story. In December 2004 i went to India and i came back on the same month. At the PortOfEntry(POE), the Officer given I-94 based on the my the Visa of my previous company which is valid upto Jan 1, 2006.
But i had already have approved H1B which is valid upto Jan 21, 2007. At that time, i didn't know it is a problem based on LastActionRule. When the time to file for my H1B extension(basically 7th Year) in the month of November 2006, my attorney find that i am technically out of status because of my I-94 is overriden by PortOfEntry eventhough i had H1B Approval with I-94. My Attorney explained about mistake by POE to USCIS when we filed my H1B extension and the USCIS approved my extension for 1 year from Jan22, 2007 to Mar30, 2008 because my Labor is pending. Recently this march my H1B extended to 3 more years based on I-140 approval.
My question is if i will to India for vacation this November is there any problem in the port of entry. I haven't travelled since Dec,2004. I am going to use AdvanceParole(AP) on this vacation. Eventhough my attorney says there is no problem to go to India because we got two H1B approvals after the I-94 problem, but i am not 100% confident because at the POE they may create a problem. Can anybody please tell if u had same or similar problem and successfully travelled in and out of USA.
Here is my story. In December 2004 i went to India and i came back on the same month. At the PortOfEntry(POE), the Officer given I-94 based on the my the Visa of my previous company which is valid upto Jan 1, 2006.
But i had already have approved H1B which is valid upto Jan 21, 2007. At that time, i didn't know it is a problem based on LastActionRule. When the time to file for my H1B extension(basically 7th Year) in the month of November 2006, my attorney find that i am technically out of status because of my I-94 is overriden by PortOfEntry eventhough i had H1B Approval with I-94. My Attorney explained about mistake by POE to USCIS when we filed my H1B extension and the USCIS approved my extension for 1 year from Jan22, 2007 to Mar30, 2008 because my Labor is pending. Recently this march my H1B extended to 3 more years based on I-140 approval.
My question is if i will to India for vacation this November is there any problem in the port of entry. I haven't travelled since Dec,2004. I am going to use AdvanceParole(AP) on this vacation. Eventhough my attorney says there is no problem to go to India because we got two H1B approvals after the I-94 problem, but i am not 100% confident because at the POE they may create a problem. Can anybody please tell if u had same or similar problem and successfully travelled in and out of USA.
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Humhongekamyab
09-16 02:19 PM
Same thing you used your Cingular minutes for :)
This will be your second round of calls.
Not Cingular but the new AT&T. :D
This will be your second round of calls.
Not Cingular but the new AT&T. :D
GCKarma
04-27 07:24 PM
...ANOTHER Bill?????? I guess this HAS to be the year with the MOST number of Bills being introduced in House/Senate - Now, it's getting confusing. Which one do we root for? Which one do we ignore???
Jab upar wala detha hai, tho chappar phaar ke detha hai!
(Loose translation in English - When it rains, it pours!!!)
there is no strive in senate....what r they goona debate? I don't think they are going to discuss other than circus if at all they do
Jab upar wala detha hai, tho chappar phaar ke detha hai!
(Loose translation in English - When it rains, it pours!!!)
there is no strive in senate....what r they goona debate? I don't think they are going to discuss other than circus if at all they do
nixstor
08-23 10:26 PM
I was thinking that BEC's have 300K odd cases. Are you sure its only 180K?
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